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Satish
2012-08-24 01:23:48 UTC
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Go back to school and re-learn your history class, kiddo.
I'm almost fifty years and have been studying a lot :-)
Tibet is one oof my favorites.
Then you must be the selective wilful ignorant fool just like the rest
of typical western idiots.
Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
This is the Rudyard Kipling line of argument favored by the Beijing
regime.

In its narrative, Beijing's colonial rule in Tibet has nothing to do
with Beijing's imperialist agenda and everything to do with doing good
to the Tibetans.

Kipling justified imperialism in a 1899 poem - it was justified as an
obligation - "The White Man's Burden". Once the Chinese Communist
Party (CCP) took over the reins of power in Beijing they, too, invoked
a variation of "The White Man's Burden" to justify "liberation" of
Tibet. But in reality, Tibet was brutally occupied.

The Tibet takeover, was in reality, a consequence of the Chinese
Communist Party's (CCP) version of acquiring Lebensraum for its
people. The Tibetans were the sacrificial lamb - they were required to
make way for CCP's colonial agenda or face the worst.


CCP's ideological parent, the infamous Joseph Stalin, is famously
said to have asked an adviser, dismissively, “How many divisions does
the Pope have?” The Dalai Lama, likewise, has no divisions at his
command. His influence stems from the moral platform he stands on
rather than on the number of soldiers under his command. If Human
Rights Organizations the world over (including the USA) respect the
Dalai Lama, it is because he does have a heart in sharp contrast to
the CCP and its foot soldiers who don't.


**************

This famous/infamous poem was written by Britain's imperial poet,
Rudyard Kipling, in response to take over of yet another colony by
"The White Man":

Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!

*******************
The world knows that there is very little truth in Chinese Communist
information. Chinese government has no respect for truth,it is mostly
propaganda.
Wishing you peace, love and happiness.
Peter
niunian
2012-08-24 01:51:46 UTC
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Post by Satish
Go back to school and re-learn your history class, kiddo.
I'm almost fifty years and have been studying a lot :-)
Tibet is one oof my favorites.
Then you must be the selective wilful ignorant fool just like the rest
of typical western idiots.
Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
This is the Rudyard Kipling line of argument favored by the Beijing
regime.
Total bullshit. Irrelevant and ignorant about the real historical
situation in the remote barren land on the Tibetan plateau. It's like
saying American revolution has anything to do with the First Chinese
Emperor in the Qin Dynasty more than 2200 years ago.
Post by Satish
In its narrative, Beijing's colonial rule in Tibet has nothing to do
with Beijing's imperialist agenda and everything to do with doing good
to the Tibetans.
Kipling justified imperialism in a 1899 poem - it was justified as an
obligation - "The White Man's Burden". Once the Chinese Communist
Party (CCP) took over the reins of power in Beijing they, too, invoked
a variation of "The White Man's Burden" to justify "liberation" of
Tibet. But in reality, Tibet was brutally occupied.
The Tibet takeover, was in reality, a consequence of the Chinese
Communist Party's (CCP) version of acquiring Lebensraum for its
people. The Tibetans were the sacrificial lamb - they were required to
make way for CCP's colonial agenda or face the worst.
CCP's ideological parent, the infamous Joseph Stalin, is famously
said to have asked an adviser, dismissively, “How many divisions does
the Pope have?” The Dalai Lama, likewise, has no divisions at his
command. His influence stems from the moral platform he stands on
rather than on the number of soldiers under his command. If Human
Rights Organizations the world over (including the USA) respect the
Dalai Lama, it is because he does have a heart in sharp contrast to
the CCP and its foot soldiers who don't.
**************
This famous/infamous poem was written by Britain's imperial poet,
Rudyard Kipling, in response to take over of yet another colony by
Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the White Man's burden--
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
*******************
The world knows that there is very little truth in Chinese Communist
information. Chinese government has no respect for truth,it is mostly
propaganda.
Wishing you peace, love and happiness.
Peter
Satish
2012-08-24 02:07:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by niunian
Post by Satish
Go back to school and re-learn your history class, kiddo.
I'm almost fifty years and have been studying a lot :-)
Tibet is one oof my favorites.
Then you must be the selective wilful ignorant fool just like the rest
of typical western idiots.
Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
This is the Rudyard Kipling line of argument favored by the Beijing
regime.
Total bullshit. Irrelevant and ignorant about the real historical
situation in the remote barren land on the Tibetan plateau. It's like
saying American revolution has anything to do with the First Chinese
Emperor in the Qin Dynasty more than 2200 years ago.
A non sequitur.

Not surprised. Apologists for Beijing's imperialist rule over Tibetans
cannot do any better.
Post by niunian
Post by Satish
In its narrative, Beijing's colonial rule in Tibet has nothing to do
with Beijing's imperialist agenda and everything to do with doing good
to the Tibetans.
Kipling justified imperialism in a 1899 poem - it was justified as an
obligation - "The White Man's Burden". Once the Chinese Communist
Party (CCP) took over the reins of power in Beijing they, too, invoked
a variation of "The White Man's Burden" to justify "liberation" of
Tibet. But in reality, Tibet was brutally occupied.
The Tibet takeover, was in reality, a consequence of the Chinese
Communist Party's (CCP) version of acquiring Lebensraum for its
people. The Tibetans were the sacrificial lamb - they were required to
make way for CCP's colonial agenda or face the worst.
CCP's ideological parent, the infamous  Joseph Stalin, is famously
said to have asked an adviser, dismissively, “How many divisions does
the Pope have?” The Dalai Lama, likewise, has no divisions at his
command. His influence stems from the moral platform he stands on
rather than on the number of soldiers under his command. If Human
Rights Organizations the world over (including the USA) respect the
Dalai Lama, it is because he does have a heart in sharp contrast to
the CCP and its foot soldiers who don't.
**************
This famous/infamous poem was written by Britain's imperial poet,
Rudyard Kipling, in response to take over of yet another colony by
Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the White Man's burden--
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
*******************
The world knows that there is very little truth in Chinese Communist
information. Chinese government has no respect for truth,it is mostly
propaganda.
Wishing you peace, love and happiness.
Peter
Peter Terpstra
2012-08-24 22:30:39 UTC
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Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
As i said before this is the Chinese Communist version of history called
PROPAGANDA outside China.

Thank you for debating with me! Will end this discussion now.

Love, Peter
rst0
2012-08-24 22:45:48 UTC
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Post by Peter Terpstra
Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
As i said before this is the Chinese Communist version of history called
PROPAGANDA outside China.
Peter the Dutch idiot, you are the biggest propaganda disseminator in
this newsgroup. The CIA transformed a devil into a living God, and
you are the biggest disseminator of this vile snake's image.
Post by Peter Terpstra
Thank you for debating with me! Will end this discussion now.
Love, Peter
Peter Terpstra
2012-08-25 14:04:31 UTC
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Post by rst0
Post by Peter Terpstra
Face the bloody historical tyranny of the Dalai lama, or there will be
no debate with you.
As i said before this is the Chinese Communist version of history called
PROPAGANDA outside China.
Peter the Dutch idiot, you are the biggest propaganda disseminator in
this newsgroup. The CIA transformed a devil into a living God, and
you are the biggest disseminator of this vile snake's image.
Post by Peter Terpstra
Thank you for debating with me! Will end this discussion now.
Love, Peter
Thank you Rusty, I already have forgiven you. I also care for CCP
believers, propagators.

With love, Peter

May you find peace and happiness in your life.

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